# "*": "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wefindx/schema/master/intent/oo-item.yaml" # "base:title": "0oo - Discovery Methods for Living Systems" "og:title": "Discovery Methods for Living Systems" "og:description": "It seems to me that we humans are limited in our current tools, i.e. scientific method, to see the bigger picture and how various parts of the Earth are alive. In spirituality, a river, a mountain would be seen as alive, while if we look at scientific method, a river is not seen as alive. I wonder, what new methods humans need to invent to explore consciousness of other beings, who are now by the scientific method are recognised as non-living systems? Can we imagine a unification of a science and spirituality one day? And how would that look like?" "og:image": "https://avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/28134655" "og:url": "/intent/104001/" "base:css": "/static/css/bootstrap.min.9c25540d6272.css" "base:extra-css": "/static/css/base.57997aeac1df.css" "base:favicon": "/static/favicon.acaa334f0136.ico" "base:body_class": "" "layout:logo": "/static/0oo.8d2a8bbef612.svg" "layout:index": "/" "layout:menu": "/menu/" "layout:categories": "/intents/" "layout:ideas": "/methods/" "layout:projects": "/projects/" "layout:users": "/users/" "layout:about": "/about/" "layout:help": "/help/" "layout:bug_report": "https://github.com/wefindx/0oo" "layout:login": "/accounts/login/" "layout:light-off": "/darken/?darken=true" "layout:set-multilingual": "/mulang/?mulang=true" "layout:lang": "言語" "layout:set-language-post-action": "/i18n/setlang/" "layout:csrf-token": "7FEY1vxMWMOJxfJe97RUE8IBBLKa2gJXIAuObOdRMdrx01ai69Y0Kvk9NEGhEOy7" "layout:input-next": "/intent/104001/" "layout:languages": [{"code": "ja", "is-active": "true", "name": "日本語"}, {"code": "lt", "is-active": "false", "name": "Lietuviškai"}, {"code": "zh-hans", "is-active": "false", "name": "简体中文"}, {"code": "en", "is-active": "false", "name": "English"}, {"code": "ru", "is-active": "false", "name": "Русский"}, {"code": "oo", "is-active": "false", "name": "O;o,"}] # "item:parent:intents": [{"title": "Co-Existence Philosophy", "url": "/intent/1226/"}] "item:title": "Discovery Methods for Living Systems" "item:votes": +1 "item:add-vote": "#addnote" "item:intent": "/intent/104001/?l=ja" "item:base-administration": false "item:body": | It seems to me that we humans are limited in our current tools, i.e. scientific method, to see the bigger picture and how various parts of the Earth are alive. In spirituality, a river, a mountain would be seen as alive, while if we look at scientific method, a river is not seen as alive. I wonder, what new methods humans need to invent to explore consciousness of other beings, who are now by the scientific method are recognised as non-living systems? Can we imagine a unification of a science and spirituality one day? And how would that look like? "item:permalink": "/intent/104001/?l=ja" "item:source-date": "" "item:owner": "Ruta" "item:ownerlink": "/user/170/Ruta" "item:created": "2021-11-27T08:39:26.553108" "item:intent:child:add": "/admin/hlog/intent/add/?parent=104001" # "item:method:items": "item:method:add": "/admin/hlog/method/add/?parent=104001" "item:comment:add": "/intents/addnote?parent=104001" "item:comment:add:csrf_token": "7FEY1vxMWMOJxfJe97RUE8IBBLKa2gJXIAuObOdRMdrx01ai69Y0Kvk9NEGhEOy7" "item:comment:form": |
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  • ログインしてください。 # "item:comment:items": - "id": "r-217001" "mtrans": | //他の存在の意識を探求するのに役立つ新しい方法は何ですか? 考えられるすべての構造の研究として、数学が役立ちます。 //「川は生きているとは見なされない」 意識は二元的ではなく、連続体であるため、川でさえ意識を持っていると見なすことができ、原子や分子などもあります。世界全体が物理的なフィールドであり、接続され、複雑で、特に。ポール・ブドニクが彼の[ビデオ詩](https://youtu.be/wszKFJ06Las?t=190)でそれをどのように説明しているかが好きです: 「何らかの形での意識は物理的構造の本質であると思います。もちろん、感覚、記憶、コミュニケーションの能力を備えた物理的実体だけが彼らの意識的経験を説明できますが、他の生物または無生物でさえ何らかの形を持っている可能性があります私たちが経験するよりもはるかに単純ですが、即時の経験の: -アルツハイマー病で亡くなった人の意識の衰退はいつ完全に終わりますか? -意識は、発達中の人間の胚または胎児でいつ始まりますか? 最も単純な仮定は、それが開始または終了することはなく、脳と神経系の構造が変化するときにのみ変化するということです。」 そして、彼は次のように結論づけています。 「意識が物理的構造の本質である場合、考えられるすべての構造の研究である数学は、私たちが直面していることとそれに対処する方法についての洞察の源になる可能性があります[...]」(本を参照)リンク内) "text": | // What new methods would help explore consciousness of other beings? Mathematics, as the study of all possible structures, can help. // "a river is not seen as alive" The consciousness is not a binary -- it's a continuum -- so, even a river can be seen as having consciousness, even the atoms and molecules, and so on -- the entire world is a physical field, that is connected, intricate and particular. I like how Paul Budnik describes it in his [video poem](https://youtu.be/wszKFJ06Las?t=190): "I assume, that consciousness in some form is the essence of physical structure. Of course, only physical entities that have the capacities of sensation, memory and communication can describe their conscious experience, but other animate or even inanimate matter may still have some form of immediate experience, albeit much simpler than what we experience: - when does the fading consciousness of someone dying of alzheimer's end completely? - when does the consciousness begin in the developing human embry or fetus? The simplest assumption is that it never begins or ends, but is only transformed as the structure of the brain and nervous system is transformed." And so, he concludes, that: "If consciousness is the essence of physical structure, then mathematics, which is the study of all possible structures, may be a source of insight into what we are facing and how we might deal with it [...]" (see the book in the link) "owner": "Mindey" "ownerlink": "/user/147/Mindey" "permalink": "/intent/104001/?l=ja#r-217001" "created": "2021-11-28T07:33:39.462716" "vote": "" "base:js": "/static/js/base.c7357c06cc89.js"